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One-on-one pod today, Chris is in Charleston, and Jason is home in Los Angeles. We chat about Olympic hockey and large-mouth bass, a dissection of Joe Budden's chef's AI-generated menu, Jason made borscht, we ideate in the rotisserie chicken space, the awful waffle, TSA Pre-Check shutting down, the Wang Contemporary, is RFK a never-nude? Substack and Polymarket comingling, Gwen Stefani's anti-abortion app, and TJ is hitting the Laker game. twitter.com/donetodeath twitter.com/themjeans howlonggone.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Episode summary: One-on-one pod today, Chris is in Charleston, and Jason is home in Los Angeles. We chat about Olympic hockey and large-mouth bass, a dissection of Joe Budden's chef's AI-generated menu, Jason made borscht, we ideate in the rotisserie chicken space, the awful waffle, TSA Pre-Check shutting down, the Wang Contemporary, is RFK a never-nude? Substack and Polymarket comingling, Gwen Stefani's anti-abortion app, and TJ is hitting the Laker game. com/donetodeath com/themjeans com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit fm/adchoices All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian.
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or watch on YouTube. Let's fucking go. How long gone? It is Sunday. I'm in Charleston, South Carolina, where the sun is shining, much unlike my home territory. I have been on the phone with the Diamond Medallion help desk, Jason. It's a personal friend of mine in the last couple days. You did more time on the Zoom call with them instead of me? Not yet. If we get into collectively, I still think Delta would lose, but we were supposed to leave Monday morning. That flight got canceled, so we moved it up to today morning.
That got canceled. I love today morning. Today morning. This afternoon got canceled. Now we're looking at a Wednesday morning touchdown. So it's delaying the return by three days to Manhattan because of this blizzard that Zoron is prepping for up there. It's saying we're going to get pounded by 18 inches is what the rumor is. Do you know when the pounding? Commences? I think the pounding starts this afternoon. Okay. And speaking of, congrats to USA for beating Canada ice hockey finals in the Olympics. I was literally at my favorite gym in the world, Ethos, is here in Charleston.
I was on the treadmill doing my little sprints, and all these fucking skinny mustache run club guys really care about hockey right now. Sure. Which I can't begin to care about. But I love America, and I'm glad that we won. But was it tight? I have no idea. Okay. My brother told me. I think it was a close one. I mean, all hockey is like 1-0, so it's probably more of that. But there's an iconic photo of one of the guys on the team missing most of his front teeth with a flag wrapped around him like that famous Cat Power photo.
And I think our goalkeeper has a custom airbrushed helmet that has a large mouth bass. On it, flopping around. Okay, so he went Bass Pro Shops on the helmet. Does it get more American? I would say a largemouth bass with a nice little lure in his mouth could be more American than the Stars and Stripes itself. Wow. I'll say it. I've never thought about that, but there is something there. Name a country that catches more largemouth than we do. I'll wait. I'm not super familiar with the fishing space, especially not compared to an angler like yourself.
Obviously, my Asian brothers are putting up more numbers in terms of total fish caught just in terms of planet Earth, but we got the largemouth on that. Okay, so you're saying largemouth basks with a lure in it, meaning it's caught. Oh, and this... She's fighting, Chris. That feels a little... This hog's fighting. Okay, so we got them on the line, but there's struggle happening, so you're saying the tail is wagging on the fish. There's motion. At the very least, yeah. Okay, okay. I just want to be clear. I mean, this hog's fighting for its life, Chris.
I've never caught a largemouth bass, but what do they, and maybe you don't know this off the top of your head, but what is the, what sort of, what makes them, obviously the mouth is large. But I'm saying, what is a good size? If I'm posting on my Raya page and I have my Uptown Social snapback on and I'm wearing my hokas and my Lulu shorts and I'm holding up a fish to impress the ladies, how big does that fish need to be? You know what I'm saying? What is a good size on the fish?
I'd say let's get one that's at least a foot long. You know, [redacted address] to start. And then, you know, what, you know, three, four pounds. It doesn't have to be huge. It doesn't have to be huge. Okay. And I guess just one follow-up question, obviously, because it's a photo. It's not a video. We don't know what happens before or after. How often is a guy like that sort of one of my current locals, like a Shep style, you know, like vest, fishing shirt, hat? high noon guy, is he throwing it back or is he putting in the Yeti and grilling it up later at Sullivan's?
That's the question. Yeah, people don't really eat the bass. It's more of a catch and release sport fish. Sorry to all of our gays and girls listening right now. No, gays and girls are the people fucking these guys we're talking about. They need this info. They need it more than we do. You're welcome, honey. You're welcome. I assumed that to be the case because I eat at a lot of restaurants and bass is not on the menu. But I didn't know maybe if there was more pride with a fish. If you catch it yourself, you feel like maybe you've got to do that because it feels like God's plan.
Don't just stare at it. Eat it, right? Yeah, exactly. Famously. While we're talking about food. I did send you something I saw earlier, a menu. So over at the Joe Budden podcast. We were talking about this a couple weeks ago, but imagine what it'd be like to get a plate from Joe Budden's chef. Because Joe Budden famously has a chef along with a driver and they film and record the Joe Budden podcast in a New Jersey high-rise, high-end luxury apartment building. So it is outfitted with a full kitchen. That's nice.
And so his chef. has prepared, I guess, I didn't realize it was this serious, but I guess every recording, or at least on Fridays, the chef makes a meal, and then, as Jason so kindly pointed out, he generates an AI menu that gets posted online, and this week, this Friday, February 20th, it was an uptown Spanish Harlem-inspired meal, and I... You remind me of a West Side Story. Can you... Can you? Uptown, baby. Uptown, baby. Shout out to Peter Guns, wherever you are. I want to know. So some of this stuff I recognize.
You know what I mean? Like a pickled red onion. I know what that is. Citrus avocado, arugula salad. Doesn't sound great, but I know what it is. Mojo butter spatchcock chicken. Because it says 24-hour dry brined whole bird roasted at high heat with mojo compound butter. garlic, bloom, brown butter, brush, fresh herb, and citrus zest to finish. What the fuck is a mojo compound butter? That feels like something that holds wood together. Okay, let's break it on down. Mojo compound butter, a spatchcock chicken. You know what that is? I don't.
I would love for you to start at the start. Okay, you get a whole burge, and then you cut. You either remove the spinal cord. Okay. We can call it the back. Or you just do one cut and leave the back, depending on how afraid of bones and weird bits and stuff you are. But then it's like a chest opener, like a ribcage opener. You basically cut the backbone. Now you're talking to me like, Hunter, what do you mean? It's basically, imagine a straw, like a boba straw. You make a single incision, so now it's just got one line, and you grab and you...
pull it apart and flatten it out. So it's like a flat straw. So basically people do that. So a whole chicken, instead of looking at it like a basketball, it becomes like flattened out on a sheet pan so you can cook it more evenly. Okay. So this is like a, and excuse me if I'm just so ignoramus, but this sounds not pounded like a Milanese, but it's flat in that way. No, no, no. Yeah. You don't do anything to the flesh. It's just flat. smash the rib cage open and flatten the the dead animal okay okay so why okay I would love to know the origin of spatchcock well like you know when you see um you know when you see those videos of like the the Francis Maulmans cooking the whole animals like on the fire yeah yeah and like the the rib cage is open and it's like splayed out kind of like Jesus on the cross but it's a goat kind of kind of like that but with the chicken okay
And then Mojo sauce, it's like a Cuban kind of Caribbean sauce. It's very simple. It's usually orange juice, oregano, cumin kind of garlicky, citrusy, herby. Nothing crazy. I'm sure it pairs very well with chicken over there in New Jersey. It sounds delicious to me. I know that the Jersey chickens are... Bark, bark. All right. But the chef uses a garlic bloom brown butter brush. So I don't know what that means exactly. Well, I know that it means it's brushed on like paint on the canvas. But I don't know. Garlic bloom, does that mean he got the garlic before it was ripe?
You know what I'm saying? No, I think he's getting the garlic. He's cooking it down in some brown butter. So it's like a brown butter garlicky sauce. And then he's got some type of... I don't know, an Uptown Spanish sauce mop, and he'll kind of blast those while they're doing a high-heat mojo roast. Don't you get... No, you know what happens when you bring home one of those Uptown Spanish sauce mops back to the house? You know, that's going to be bad news. The whole team gets the hit. Cleaning ladies bummed out when that happens.
Okay, the elevated... Oh, no, it happened again, Mr. Jason. Mr. Jason, no. I got to start peeling a couple 20s off extra. That's for you, okay? The elevated pink beans is the thing that you had a question about, and as do I. I understand that a bean comes in several colors and flavors. Again, I'm no expert. I'm not shopping on, you know, I'm not getting the Gordo subscription like some people. But the pink bean, if you had to guess what that was. Is this a Cameron inspired? Is that why it's uptown?
Or is this something that exists at the local Costco? I think a pink bean is very similar to just like a regular kind of pinto bean or something like that. But I think specifically because it is an uptown Harlem inspired menu, the brand Goya, I'm sure you're familiar with. Yes. They do a lot of bean work. And I think they have one called the bean. I mean, if I lived in New York, I'd know more about this. I think the pink bean is very similar to like a pinto bean or a kidney bean kind of thing.
It's not super crazy exotic. Okay, okay. It sounded very exotic. But those pink beans are elevated, slow simmered, pink beans with aromatics. Let me say- And aromatics is spelled incorrectly. Herbs, tomato depth, and a glossy butter finish. Tomato depth. All right. Aromatics though, I mean, that seems quite vague. As far as what that means, that seems on purpose. Obviously, it's some sort of fragrance. I think they were trying to trick the average viewer of this menu. When you just say aromatics, they're like, I don't know what that is exactly, but it sounds nice and expensive.
It sounds cool. But then at the bottom of this menu, there's a kicker. And it's just sort of short phrases, like almost poetry, I would say. Crispy skin, mojo depth, bright citrus lift, warm spice undertone. Creamy beans, clean rice, sharp onion pop, fresh reset. Look, I'm no expert on AI, but this is maybe one of the most generated sentences. I don't even know if I would call it sentences necessarily. Technically, it probably isn't. But it seems like something they maybe should have left out is all I will say. Yeah, I agree.
But this is the kind of thing where the average person is going to look at it and be like, i'm a little out of my depth i'm gonna you know i'm just gonna i'm gonna trust the process that this is this is good you know so the discerning yeah connoisseur like you and me we're able to see through this ai slop but you know the average barstool enjoyer is gonna look at that and be like oh damn this sounds fucking i might make a res for valentine's day for this shit you know what i mean yeah i'm trying to see if this guy's available i got you that tomato dip Actually, well, speaking of food, shout out to our friends over at Flash Food.
But they sent over a nice little box full of some winter veg. And I've been cooking so much lately. And Carolyn and I have our faves that we go to and stuff that we make. And, you know, little healthy here, little bad boy here, whatever. But I'm starting to run out of things to cook. And I was like, I'm going to make a borscht in the style of Veselka over there in NYC. Tuck into a nice bowl of borscht during a winter pounding. Sounds good, doesn't it, Chris? Yeah, there's definitely a fucking...
Warm the cockles. There's a chick right now with some fucking true religions on her floor getting that done right now. There's no question that's happening somewhere in the East Village right now. Ninth and A, watch out. Okay. So I made the borscht. I cut my finger grating beets. Never grate a whole raw beet. It's tough work. You need a little chainmail glove. But I made a big old pot of borscht. Obviously, Carolyn doesn't want any of it because she's a normal person. And I'm talking to the neighbors. I'm like, I made some borscht.
Getting cold. And they start looking around. Nobody wants the borscht. It's a hard thing to give away. So you're saying you can't unload. And this is A1 Perico. primo borscht the first borscht i've ever made and beyond a home run so you're saying well also you're saying the quality ingredients is so high that your neighbors maybe weren't aware of that the the quality before they rejected it you weren't going to make your case and explain to them what what you're capable of okay um well borscht is disgusting so i'm not surprised that no one wants it um but what do you so are you gonna are you gonna put it in the the Sub-Zero in the garage for storage.
Yeah, it's currently frozen. It's sitting in some little cups. I already had four bowls of it this week. So you went Bill Cosby mode and put the pudding in the little cups. Is that what you're telling me? And then you froze that? That's right. You got vanilla, you got chocolate, I got something else a little different. It's magenta, and you're not going to like it. I like the mix. I like my shit stirred up. My shit is the same color as the guia, bruh. Okay, so that is an interesting development.
I mean, I find it hard. It's mildly interesting. I find it hard to believe that you, as an amateur gourmand, have quote-unquote run out of things to cook. That feels a little strong. I think that there's probably some cultures and cuisines that you have yet to uncover. There are. I mean, maybe they're not good or interesting, which is totally fair. I see what you're saying. It's more of like everyone has their faves that they go to and run to. And after so many years, you kind of perfect them and you want to try new things.
You want to explore. But I like the borscht not so much because of the flavor, but because it just makes certain foods make your body feel good. Like you eat a whole... You can have two different sandwiches. You eat one of them. You feel good. You eat one of them. You feel like shit. It's not necessarily because one is a bad boy sandwich and one is a super healthy one. Just like different nutrients and foods and things. Everyone's body responds differently to different things. And a borscht, I feel like I can eat a whole bucket of it and I just feel good.
How come my body responds badly to everything then? This is something. I guess I need to take this up with God. Well, I mean, the phrase that you use. hurled in my general direction could be used here for you bitch made is what you are you have uh hurled it's hurled yeah yeah well it's funny it's funny because i sent you guys you got a bad constitution as they say or no constitution it's giving uh it's giving asook it's giving crass flag that's why i don't do my 23 and me because i know it's going to come up 100% bitch all right this episode of how long gone is brought to you by quince Jason, the temps are warming up.
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com. That's going to be – I don't want to pay $100 for that. Oh, what tribe is that again? Exactly. I was hoping this would work out in my favor, but it says here I'm 100% bitch. I was going to – because we've been – I sent you guys this menu yesterday. We've been going to – there's a place in Charleston called Baba's, and it is – it's like a – Chrissy like Baba? Yeah, it's like an all-day coffee, pastries, but they have a full menu. And I thought I liked Baba.
Alex likes – we're going to go every day that we're here is what's going to happen. But there's a – So all 12 days you're going to go. 12 days of Charleston for the Stranded. And it was the 12 days of Baba. So there's three locations. We visited all three. You know, but just to check it, there's one that's walking distance, two are a little more of a drive. One feels a little more collegiate, College of Charleston student vibe. And, you know, the Greek location. One has a more of a larder essentials market vibe, you know, where you could get obviously some charcuterie, some obviously natural wines.
And there's a Baba Grabango? There's a Baba, but they're famous for this grilled. chocolate chip banana bread with butter, which I haven't had yet, thank God. But I sent you yesterday, there's a salad there that's sort of simple with pistachios and like Parmesan and it's really... That's not a salad, that's a cheese plate, but go ahead. I mean, it's so good and I can't, I think about it, I'm like, oh, when it creeps towards lunchtime, all I want is this fucking salad and they also have an avocado toast, they have a turkey sandwich, they have a great grilled cheese that has a little pimento.
Ooh, yeah. Yeah, I'm looking at this, the pistachio and Parmesan salad, gem lettuce, lemon vin. Toasted pistachio, shaved parmigiano, reggiano. I feel like this couldn't be a more simple salad, right? I feel like you and Alex could make this at home any day of the week, right? In theory, that is probably true. But something about it, I think that, I don't know, it's just really hidden. I just think that salads have gotten sometimes overcomplicated. Talk your shit. And this is a great version of something that's just normal as hell. It's just normal as hell, but it's really good.
And I think that... They have some other pistachio. I feel like they're pistachio forward, which I don't know if that's a trend or if that's something that I've just missed. Can we talk about how you pronounce the word pistachio? Pistachio? You go for an ah. It's a tomato, tomato. Pistachio, darling. I don't mean to make it gayer. than normal but but you did but i like maybe i'm adding a little sauce on it no vinaigrette well i think you should make this at home or the next time you're coming to la whenever yeah maybe i was well i was gonna ask if maybe you could batch this for me and sort of meal prep it so i have five days of salad so i don't have to you know so i don't have to go out venture out i just love the idea of you like driving home from the from easton gym with one of my little plastic containers in between your legs driving the little range around And you're just shoveling cheese and pistachios into your mouth as your protein-packed meal.
I got to say, well, that's the one issue with it. You cannot add salmon to it. But I get a bunch of, they have a lot of jammy eggs. So I get those. When are we just going to give up, Chris, and just start having chicken breast? I mean, probably, I kind of think, I think about, no, because I think about it and then I don't, because I don't, I'm already such a basic bitch. I don't want to be part of the chicken Caesar wrap dialogue. You know, like, I feel like that's the end for me.
Well, that's worse than buying a $10,000 road bike. But yeah, but that's just one way to have chicken. You could have Spatchcock Mojo. Yeah, I could. I could. But then I'm saying- Sounds like a fucking at the drive-in lyric. It really does. But then I get into like, oh, have you tried the rotisserie chicken at Costco? It's actually bomb. I don't want to be a part of that. No, Chris, don't do that. I don't want to be part of that. That's jester slop. Don't eat that. There's a New York Times article also talking about how chicken is now the most expensive thing on the menu several places.
So it feels like this is- There's a Wall Street Journal story about how- That's what's keeping us from buying our first home, right? No, that's the Meadow Lane chicken salad. That's keeping us from buying our first home. At least me. For all the people that were hating on that article, hey guys, there's... The price of rotisserie chickens is a scale. You can get the one at Costco that's just made with plastic, or you can get some real big dog shit. You know what I'm saying? Made with plastic. What does spatchcock mean?
Oh, it's actually seeped in plastic for a couple hours, and then it's sort of presented that way. Some burgers are $1. Some are $25. Yeah, I feel like that scale has always existed. I don't know why. I mean, maybe I guess it's a restaurant trend story more than it is actually. It's one of those things where people... It's like the Kleenex and tissue. When you say rotisserie chicken, the mind just subconsciously goes to whatever, jester slop in a bag, just a hot microplastic bag that costs $3, and you just kind of tear into it, and God knows what they're pumping in those birds.
I want to know if some of these gym guys that are really about their protein, have they installed rotisseries in their homes? Because that is a high-end element of a grand sort of McMansion kitchen that I've seen before. Do you think there's guys living in one-bedroom apartments that sort of sleep on top of kettlebells? They're like, you know what? Fuck it. I'm not going to buy any Magna this month. Guys that can easily bench 315, no problem. I'm sure that there's going to be some type of startup thing when everyone was buying.
$200 pizza ovens, you know, a few years ago, there's going to be like a Ninja brand rotisserie where people are going to meal prep out their birds. But the problem is they're going to be really upset when they go and when you buy a seasoned, cooked, hot and ready to eat. rotisserie chicken at Costco for $4. Their shit don't taste like that. Well, that, but then also you go to the store and just buy a raw chicken with no flavor that's going to require hours of work, and that costs whatever, $15.
Oh, I see. It's like a better, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's one of those. It doesn't make sense to the average bear. So you would have to want to cook. But you can buy in bulk. I like the idea of getting a little Bluetooth-enabled Wi-Fi rotisserie thing. You dump it in your wet brine for a 24 in the... in the Costco, in the Home Depot bucket. I like the idea of one of these guys in head-to-toe bandit running outside sweating, waiting on his bulk chicken delivery from Cisco to come so he can kind of pack them in.
No, no, no. He's watching the game, and then he gets a notification on his phone that chicken number three on his spit has reached the ideal optimized temperature, internal temp, and now it's time to pull. Honestly, this is a pretty good idea. I mean, because I remember... Is this for dads and grads coming up this summer? Not dads. Well, because the takeover is sort of when the air fryer, this feels like it could be. It's very, very air fryer. Because like you said, the meal prep for the week, I just get seven chickens, line those pretty ladies up all in a row, and then pull out my brown butter garlic mojo basting brush, and then twerk that thing a good two hours, low and slow.
And then you get the chicken. The fat, the juices are all dripping down. Guess what's in the bottom? A whole bunch of nice Yukon Golds from Weiser. And they're getting crisped up. All that chicken fat in there. Those are protein potatoes. Those are protatos. Protatos. So check out our new release. We got protatos. After the run, just grab a latte and a protato. These ain't your grannies. That's actually pretty, I do think that the, I want to, I think that ideating on what is the next air fryer, because the air fryer really took over the culture.
The air fryer was an extremely, it penetrated all corners of society. I mean, it's still ravaging America and the world. But I've, I mean, we had one at one point and. Alex would stink up the house with it occasionally. But I, of course, was able to get rid of it. Shop show crabs are done, Chris. You ready? I come home. I come home. Like, why does it smell like a crab boil in here? Because it is, bitch. That's why. You got all kinds of mojo sauce on the ceiling. She ain't ever going to say how that got there.
Why is there corn on the cob over the floor? There was some spray back. I'm very sorry. You got to be careful with the boils. You got to be careful with the boils. That is an interesting... I think the spit, the home spit for under 300, the William & Sonoma... Because it was air fryer, and then it moved to the Ninja at Home ice cream maker. Oh, yes. And then also the Ninja vertical waffle iron, which my mom and Carolyn's mom both wanted and received for Christmas. I have to say, that sounds kind of fly.
I'm not super familiar with it, but what is the twist on it? obviously a waffle fryer a waffle um iron maker iron i'm sorry waffle iron is pretty obvious you pour the batter in you slam that shit shut you come back when it's ready so what is the stand-up version what is what is the tony hawk vert edition well yeah instead of it being a flat waffle iron where you pour the batter in you close the lid it sizzles and steams it spits out some shit on the sides it gets burned whatever this one it's vertical it's docked you know like a spaceship or whatever and it's got a hole i've never done it before i'm just yeah sure you've purchased two i've purchased i think i know what i'm talking about and then there's a there's you take all the guesswork out of it you basically just pour in the waffle batter into the hole You know, like the blowhole of a, if you're trying to kill a dolphin and fill his hole with cement, same kind of vibe.
You just fill it up to the line, close the hole, and then she'll cook. I learned about it from a friend of the show, Al Wilmont, his new restaurant, Bar Di Bello, opening soon in Silver Lake. But he said this waffle iron looks so nice. It's one of those things like, I got it for my kid. My kid loves waffles. Let me ask you a question. I'd be lying if I didn't have one myself. No, I actually love Elsa. I think those movies are really good. It sucks having kids. I got to eat all this junk food now.
I'm getting fat again. Okay, I understand this difference. I don't understand why it would be better. I have no clue why. You know what I mean? okay it's just it's just basically we we change something and people are dumb enough to buy it even though they probably have something that does the same exact job in their kitchen already yeah and i guess until like industrial until like max and helens and you know waffle house start using this technology You know, I'll believe it when I see it. It's like, you know, when hotels start using Dyson vacuums, then we'll talk about it, but they ain't doing it.
So, you know, trust the industry standard is a good way to be. Yeah, that's actually quite true. You know, I was thinking recently about, I think when I go back to, because I'm going to Atlanta for a little bit, and I think I need to hit the awful waffle. I haven't been in so long. I've never heard it called the awful waffle. I don't think that's a Chris original. I think that probably seeped in somewhere in my, you know. Oh, I didn't think you invented it. I'm delighted by this established colloquialism.
It's a nice turn of phrase, yeah, but I haven't been in so long. I feel like it would be a nice treat because you could just get eight eggs scrambled. some hash browns, not smothered and covered, and maybe, you know, a little waffle on the side. Let me get an eight and eight protein style. Yeah, I wonder if they, I'm sure they've added some protein style elements to their menu, which probably has, you know, I would say that menu doesn't go. No, they're leaning into the fiber maxing. They said, we've been here the whole time, guys.
We've been here. You know what's in, you know what's in waffles, bitch? Plenty of fiber. We've been here the whole goddamn time. You should. I would love to go to Waffle House with you. I mean, it's pretty good. You know what's cool about it? Is that it is, certain locations, not all of them, obviously. it's kind of busy all the time yeah like for a 24 hour restaurant it's it's interesting that it's it doesn't feel super like it's i mean obviously i'm sure there's there's ebbs and flows but overall it seems to have a baseline busyness that you would expect it to peak at like 3
m. or whatever, you know? Yeah, we got the 4 m. rush. But they're saying that your precious In-N-Out is coming to New York. I'm sure you saw that rumor. Yeah, but that rumor has existed every year on the year for 20 years, I guess. I don't know. I mean, I think even David Cho did some merry prankster kind of Banksy work where he would put up fake. That ad busters motherfucker. He would put up his little In-N-Out coming soon wheat paste posters. Getting curbed NY message board going nuttier than squirrel shit.
Oh, God, dude. I love that. I love Cho out there getting the fucking nasty little glue all over his Nikes. That's bad. Imagine getting fucking glue on your Jordans. That'll ruin your day. The resale value on the SBs goes up with a little... Fucking street art. A little street art on it? Well, I got a little street art on it. A little street art on this? How much more can I get for it? Oh, how much more? On the micro dunks. Okay, so there was news this morning that Donald J.
Trump, 45 and 47. Respectfully. Because of this constant and ever-evolving government shutdown, TSA, they pulled the plug. on TSA and Global Entry. They said no more pre-check, no more Global Entry. And then a friend of the show, Spencer Vorman, was reporting live from LAX, and he said it's fine. And the guy told him, the guy that worked at TSA was like, yeah, that shit lasts like three hours, bro. We're good. So I wonder what is, I obviously wish I was finding out today, but I won't be finding out until Wednesday morning at 4.30.
So I can't give an on-the-ground report. But I feel like That combined with this blizzard in New York could be the most diabolical airport combination ever invented, and it's something I have to go through as a frequent flight. It's my job to go through that. It's like basic training. Oh, it's your duty. Yeah. You're on the front lines of it. Okay, well, I mean. Some people are like, you know what? Middle of February, dead center of winter. Let's go in an airplane. Everything should be fine. It feels like a little user error.
That's all, Chris. It is user error, but I think this time of year. This is the worst winter in New York that I can remember, snow-wise. Snow-wise. I think people are confused by it. Look, if I went to JFK with a canceled flight, 18 inches of snow, and no TSA, that is like, in my mind, I'm wearing full fatigues, crawling on my arms underneath barbed wire in mud with an AK on my back. Just let me have this one. A grenade lands in front of your face. You pick it up, you throw it back.
Yeah, I throw it. I throw it back. I'm throwing that right back. This reminds me of the first TSA government shutdown a few months ago. Yeah. When my dear sweet wife, she went through Delta One and they said, oh, no, we're going to have to take you upstairs through Gen Pop. And we're going to give you, you know. Well, the whole point of Delta One is, honestly, the reason to pay that much money for that ticket is to not go through, to go through the fake security. That's the whole point.
But the last couple of times I've done it, it's actually, it seems like it's been slower than when I'm going up in Gen Pop. Well, it's definitely slower because that's the laziest people I could find. I know, just the sweet irony of like, oh, it's slower, a slower check-in process. For the ticket that cost me $9,000. What if they're doing it on purpose to keep you out of the lounge because you're going to eat them out of house and home? Every minute you're stalled waiting is another fucking lemon cheesecake square that you're not sucking down.
All right, we got a big fellow on. Let's hold this up. Let's search everything. He kept talking about getting two servings of the risotto. Let's do a bag check. He said the word lasagna more than twice. We got to get this guy out of here. Yeah, I think that there's something to be said. That feels purposeful in some way, but I hope it's not. I would hate for our Delta family to be treating us like that. Yeah, but this is what we have to do during times of war, Chris. We got to buckle down, buy bonds, and fly.
I guess fly private. I'm buying gold and flying private. Did you see where they asked DT what his favorite Bible verse was? And he said, oh, gotta go. He was literally like, well, that's very private. I could never pit. And then they were like, all right, what's your favorite? New Testament or Old Testament? And he was like, oh, it's a tie. Damn. A master jujitsu wiggler out of that one. I was like, that is a really cool answer. You're asking me to pick my favorite kid. I can't do that on camera, guys.
There's literally no wrong answer to do you like the New Testament or Old Testament better. There's preferences, of course, but I don't think there's a right or wrong answer. To not be able to give one is really funny. I think at this point, a president might have a better shot at... at getting a higher like approval rating if you came out and said i don't i don't read the i've never read the bible i'm here to like fix our country i don't i don't care about that shit you know yeah i i know i agree with you i think if you i think if you followed up i don't read the bible i don't care about that with like a focus yeah then they get and then you get voted in and they're like yeah i don't read the bible i read the quran got you bitch and then got him and then next thing you know then we're never having security again this is beautiful mojo chicken on every corner I swear to God, if I see one more mojo chicken cart, I'm going to flip the fuck out.
Speaking of carts, in New York, over there in Chinatown, my sexual abuser and his mom bought a big cement building over there, Alex Wang, right? Yeah, I walk by it every day. The Wang Contemporary, which is too... I mean, that's just too good. That's like saying, I like Young Dick Contemporary Wang. I mean... People are... Is it really called Wang Contemporary? Yeah, it's called the Wang Contemporary. Yeah, I have a picture of the sign on my phone because it sort of happened. We got Wajian supremacy and Wang Contemporary. I literally walk by it every day, multiple times a day.
So I noticed when they changed the sign. You walk around it picketing it because it's a sexual abuser? Oh, yeah. I was throwing tomatoes at it from the city bike. But I guess I wasn't super clear on how long his money was. And it is... Right. It's longer than the Lunar New Year Parade. That is... Longer than a dragon's tail. Do you think he got some outside funding? I think the family has bread. I mean, it's a beautiful building that's been there forever that's sort of like... I think it was relatively also affordable considering what it is and where it is.
Yeah, yeah. It was like $9 million or something for a giant... It's a beautiful marble building on Bowery. On the bridge. Yeah, it's right next to the bridge. But I don't know what he's going to house in there. But it seems like, I mean, look, he's got Northwest wearing his clothes. So I think that your allegations are meaningless at this point. I think he's sort of much like other men in his position of power. He's beat the charges. Wang, come on the pod. Let's do a nice confrontation. Isn't it amazing?
Kevin Spacey's having a tap dance for fucking billionaires with blood on their hands in Uzbekistan. I wonder how Wang got an extra 10 milli just to buy an old cement building by the bridge. He's getting his little Saudi on. Who else buys Alexander Wang but Northwest and fucking oligarchs and warlords? The daughters of them. I would like to see a breakdown. I don't think he's had a hit in a while, but I don't. know if um i don't know what the the building is going to house obviously contemporary art is the goal and the selling point but i i will don't worry for for our listeners and for you jason i'll be on the ground i'll take a look i'll pay my i mean maybe it's free uh i doubt it is but i'll happily pay up to 30 dollars to tour the facilities.
I'll be out there. I'm going to do a PETA-style throwing of the duck sauce on his fur coat as he walks in. I think he... Splashed with Hoisin. For your sins. Don't take it there. Hold me back, twin. Not in Chinatown. You'll get in trouble. They'll beat your ass, bro. Those motherfuckers won't play with you. Beat my ass at ping pong. That's about it. You hurt. Speaking of fitness... RFK Jr. He is being accused of being a never nude. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Squarespace.
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A lot of questions, but how often? Because we do this podcast three times a week and that's a sweet spot. How many times do they do? Three times a week. And I have a feeling just based on the platform and these talking points that they're maybe going to be covering different stuff than we do. That's just a guess. The Guardian is not some billionaire-owned They're not afraid to say what they want to say, brother. Yeah, Rupert ain't sniffing around in what journalists Kai Wright and Carter Sherman are up to over there at Stateside.
But yeah, listen wherever you get your podcasts. You can watch it on YouTube. It's three times a week. And who couldn't use more news? Especially when it's not from here, let's say. Give it a listen. Give it a listen. Let me say something right now before we get into this. RFK Jr. looks great. He does look great. He looks great for his age. He's in amazing shape for his age. I don't think he's a never nude. I think that he thinks that wearing jeans in all situations, especially ones that are athletic focused, makes him more masculine, which is dumb as hell.
But I do think he takes his jeans off when Carol says, let me see what that thing do. Okay. Okay. Okay. Got it. Got it. That does make sense. And I think that there are people who have the Joe Rogan mentality who are like, you always have to be on and alert for danger. There could always be an intruder or somebody coming in so I can never be caught without my pants on, literally or figuratively. But I think that is that line drawn in bodies of water because he's going in the cold plunge with jeans on.
I mean, look, I think it is very weird. Look, a guy with no shirt on wearing hiking boots and 501s putting up 315 on the rogue rack. Let him cook. Do your thing. I ain't going to hold you. As soon as you go in a pool, a hot tub, a cold tub. With jeans on. Yeah, that's worse than Justin Bieber wearing fucking ankle-length basketball shorts and Calvin Klein boxers in the hot tub. Yeah, it's like there's a famous Lil Wayne photo where he's wearing socks in the jacuzzi. Isn't there a Meek Mill photo like that too?
I think there's several. I think that RFK thinks- It raises questions. I think it's just a masculinity thing. I think he thinks this is the most masculine thing you can do. I don't think he's even considering how stupid he looks. I think he is considering it. I think he's constantly thinking about it, and I think I talked about this earlier, maybe like a year or so ago. I think he's hiding something under his jeans. You think he's got academics legs, or you think he's got a third leg? I think there is some sort of deformity that is so upsetting that it is better to just leave them on, but then the question, that I'm also wrangling with is if that is the case, whatever it is, let's say you've got heroin track marks, you've got an insane Nazi tattoo, you were in a fire and the skin is deformed, whatever it could be, crazy vein blood disease or something where it just looks so crazy, it's better to truly leave the jeans on even in the pool.
Then my question is, that sort of debunks that, why are you filming yourself doing this? You can just do all the stuff, but you don't have to film yourself swimming with jeans on. Because he wants to be... I think he knows it gets people talking, which there's also no real downside for him. You know what I mean? I learned that from DJ Vlad. Him and Kid Rock going toe-to-toe in the sauna in the cold plunge. I mean, yeah, a salt bike in the sauna with jeans on, that has to be beyond...
That must feel so uncomfortable. I'm willing to try that, actually. If we could set that up somewhere, I'm willing to get... I mean, a pair of your salvage Japanesees just soaked to the... I mean, they're going to be like 35 pounds of Japanese denim crinkling and crunching. We're introducing a new Hanover jean fit. So I think maybe the promo could be... This. You know, I try them out in certain situations, but maybe this is the final boss of those situations. Finally, a denim for our cold plungers out there. Well, the real question is, what do we think he's wearing underneath?
Because... He got American Flag Ethicas. American Flag Ethicas? Saks? S-A-X-X? Is he wearing... But could he be going free? I think, yeah, I think he does not wear underwear. I think he's not wearing underwear, which in that case, because if he's wearing- 100% not wearing underwear. If he's wearing his District Vision bike shorts, you know, or half tights underneath there, he's fine. That's protecting your thighs from any shaping. He is not. He is not. I think he believes a true American has to go ball on Levi. Are the jeans officially, are they American made?
Are they Levi's? Have we figured out what brand they are, actually? No, no, no. Because I think that I would be- Let me ask throwing fits. I would be certain- I would be shocked if there wasn't a little stretch in those things based on his age. Based on his age. As he's gotten older, sure. Those are page premium. Those are not 501s. Those are not or slow. Those are not, you know, those are not 316 Japanese stand up in the corner alone. Okay. The Atlantic has reports suggesting he is wearing origin delta flex denim jeans for mobility.
He's been noted for wearing tight-fitting jeans during workouts, leading to speculation about his athletic-style denim. He has not confirmed this brand, but he has been associated with the trend of performance-enhancing denim. So he found racist jeans and wears those to work out in, which is unbelievable that that even exists. Yeah, two days ago, there was a story in the Atlantic called Let's Talk About RFK 's Workout Pants. I mean, look, you know how I feel about anybody working out in pants. I think it's kind of psycho. If you're really sweating, like wearing your jeggings or Lululemons doesn't really make sense to me.
But I think that if he's wearing stretch denim that is specifically engineered for working out, then I think we should buy a pair and put me through my paces. Because I think there's only one way to find that. I don't know if I could walk one day in his hokas, but I would try. There's a video where he says RFK Jr. reveals why he wears jeans during workouts. Oh, he said it's because he goes hiking in the morning and then he goes straight to the gym. And it's just become a habit.
Okay. So, you know, as if it's normal that we all go hiking in tight jeans as well. No one hikes in jeans either. No one hikes in jeans either. But that's the thing. His brain believes that that is a good alibi, excuse, or reason. Yeah. And I mean, I guess from a logistical standpoint for him, it does make sense. I remember clearly. one time, I think you were with me, Jason. We went on a hike with an unnamed friend. This is years ago. And he showed up in some Japanese denim and some Birkenstocks.
And we were sort of like... Bro, it's not that kind of thing. This is kind of hard. You've got to wear real shoes. We're not doing the res. I'm not saying shorts necessarily, but at least a sweat pant that allows for some mobility. You know what I mean? And I think that RFK holding onto that for convenience sake feels like a... He's making a choice. Did our little runner boy have no problem with that hike, though, I remember. No, he did not. He did not. Kind of hike-mogged us. He hiked-mogged us.
He shit on us, honestly. So maybe we're wrong. I went hiking yesterday. What a beautiful day. I could see the ocean. I haven't been on a hike in so long. I used to go solo sometimes. Honestly, the problem is when you're traveling and you go on a hike in LA, the shoes are so dusty. You don't want to put them back in the... in the suitcase. No, that's a real thing, but a person like you, you can get a little one-hit pair. Honestly, I used to keep a pair of Nordas in the back of the BMW for that purpose.
It was great to have those there. It made a lot of sense. It made a lot of sense to keep a pair. Do you want to talk about Polymarket and Substack partnership? Nope. No, no. I mean, I don't know what... Of all the things that people say and do, on sub stack it's funny that this is the thing that is sort of feels like it's breaking the camel's back a little bit i agree i agree it doesn't but also i mean if they're trying if sub stack is like we have you know the liberal kind of artistic left side of things but we don't have the right this is a good way to like you know if you're if you're an average poly market crypto republican cybertruck bro You have no use for Substack.
You don't know what Substack is. Obviously, there's plenty of more right-leaning authors on Substack. Sure, sure. They got in trouble for capturing too much of that market if you want to get into the weeds. Obviously, it must be a monetary thing, but I don't really understand the point. I just don't understand not knowing that this will enrage your base. Like before you do it. And that's what I'm confused. That's what confuses me. Because I understand that from a number standpoint, this might work or make sense. But when you know that people are going to be pissed off, I don't know why.
It can't be worth it in the long run. But maybe it is. I mean, they have more data than we do. I mean, I'm sure that Polymarket gave them a lot of money to do this, maybe to legitimize them. And I don't know exactly what the integration or partnership entails. I don't know if anyone does yet. You know, at the very least being able to embed. I mean, I could see it being useful and beneficial being, you know, if somebody is writing about a subject that we don't, you know, people are debating and wondering, you can embed, you know, just like a MySpace link or whatever, the MySpace music player into the story and you can get a live up to date, you know, ranking on the likelihood of whatever it is you're talking about happening.
And it could be something. you know important to the world like when are we going to bomb iran and not like how many seconds is the s hockey team gonna go into overtime with or you know what color shoelaces yeah uh f1 driver is gonna wear something i just it doesn't seem it also just doesn't seem necessary Like, I'm like, I don't know if this is what anybody wants. Like, even if you love both of those things and you use them, I doubt you've ever thought about integrating them. Well, I think there's a big world of that type of person using, I mean, I guess like sports betting people where they're riding, you know.
a lot of paywalled information. Oh, because they're, okay, so you're subscribing. So that could be a market they're trying to, yeah, yeah, because they'll do like private lists, like email lists of like, you know, give me 100 bucks a month and I'll give you all my real picks. I'll give you my picks. So that could be a huge market and a great, easy way to paywall without having to announce it publicly and getting a backlash, just sort of giving them the tools and waiting for them to figure out. that they can do this and make it easy, you know?
Kind of like Tumblr was never like, we could post porn here, guys. And, you know, people just sort of did it on their own. And it became like a cool way to look at some titties and dicks. I just can't imagine the employee morale is super high after this announcement. That's all. It just doesn't feel like a thing that needed to happen. Right, right, right. It just doesn't. Also, if you're, you know. I'm not privy to the financials, but it seems like your business is doing pretty well. You've become the sort of Kleenex of newsletters.
You're the dominating by far. No one can touch you. I just don't really understand the need to do something like this. It just has stink all over it. It just seems unnecessary. It wouldn't be the first time that... a cool platform was destroyed by year-over-year shareholder growth. No, of course. No, that's what this country is built on. It just seemed like a surprising choice. I agree. But if you made a bunch of money and you work at Substack, congratulations. Gwen Stefani has an anti-abortion app. What do you think happens on this app?
I didn't know that's what it was. I thought it was just like a right... I just thought it was like a general like... I'm bad now app, you know, as far as her beliefs go. People are really upset about the Stefani shift. It's interesting. I didn't realize what she, I guess I didn't fully realize like what she represented to people because I never thought of her that way. Like I never thought of her as some like counterculture. I always thought of her as like a hot pop star that was like pretty cool.
I never thought of her representing her. Yeah, I guess her feminist punk origins when she first started, you know, endeared her to a large group of people and she was like... Yeah, but she's not like Kathleen Hanna or something. I understand that, but I think people... But now people are sort of acting like she was this... I'm like, I don't think Vince Funny ever said anything about anything either way. I think people are... People just get upset about the hypocrisy, you know, like a lot of people had to reckon with Morrissey Gates once he became somebody, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's giving Nationalista a little bit too much or, you know, it happens all the time when these people who are, you know, lifelong punks, at least that's what you led us to believe, you know, switch their style up. Nobody likes to see it. Part of me with her, though, feels like it's more we chose. I don't think she ever led us there. We led ourselves there and chose to believe it, and she didn't say anything either way. Yeah, you can take the girl out of Orange County. Yeah, but it's just like, I mean, once she married Blake Shelton, you knew it was all downhill.
Going from Rossdale to Shelton, one of the ultimate fumbles. Seriously. I mean, it's enough to say like, hey, you know what, guys? I know we're in the middle of a... you know national tour and i'm gonna headline at the sphere and blah blah blah blah blah but i really want to focus on an app that um helps people not have abortions i would hate to be what's the bass player's name tony tony oh tony i'd hate to be tony right now oof i hate to be tony right now he's like bitch we're about to do the sphere can you please shut go back to montana and shut the fuck up for a little while and tony tony can talk to her like that because he hit first he hit first i have no doubt Did you imagine him being like, I hit first?
Because you already know Tony, he's a quiet guy. But you know his pimp hand is strong because he was tapping it right at some point. He tapped first. He hit first. He said quiet woman. That band wouldn't exist without Tony. That's what people don't realize. They think it's all Gwen. It's not. It's Tony. I think, isn't it all original? Is it still all original members? Or maybe they replaced their drummer? Once they got... Big, big, I think on like the second album, they quietly sunsetted their like three black horn section kind of.
Oh, they had like a Mighty Mighty Boston ska style. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They had like a small horn section and they were also like very like jumping around and like kind of MC like. Yeah, yeah. Like the guy on the Boston, you know, just getting the party started ska style. Yeah, you got to get them. What's going to happen if you don't get the party started? Yeah, I saw a great ska bumper sticker, Keep Honking. I'm listening to ska, and you're in the band now. That's actually really good. Very specific.
Ska music does sound like a bunch of honking, I will say. Maybe I'll listen to some ska. I think we're going to try to go to the beach later, so maybe I'll put some ska on when I'm heading over the bridge, get in the zone. You're going to unplug the Marshall Bluetooth speaker from the hotel. It's been charging the whole time, babe. Don't worry. Did you know, by the way, I found out recently, did you know that Orange makes one of those? No, I did not know that. It's much cooler.
There's the Orange amp. How could it not be? Orange makes one. I mean, it looks obviously the same. It looks like a small, you know. You already know Queens of the Stone Age got the influencer seating package. Okay, do you want to talk about the Olympic figure skater who's capturing the hearts of the world? People are talking about the Wajian supremacy, how Cali Wajians are taking over. As someone who is well-versed in Wajian culture, Do you agree with the list? I've seen a list going around. Oh, there's like a Waysian ranking?
Yeah, there's a Waysian ranking. And there's some unexpected names, I will say. Like people I had never really considered to be part of the community. I don't know if I could find the Waysian ranking list. I mean, this is on Twitter, obviously. I know, I'm looking on Twitter, but there's a lot of Asian stuff on Twitter. Okay, I know this figure skater has like tooth jewels and like fun hair. But her vibe is like, I just like to skate. Like she's not super serious about it. So people like it because she's so good.
She's like very, I think people like her because she's bringing the left and the right together. She has like piercings and dyed hair and she's skating to Pink Panthers. But also when she wins for her country, she drapes the flag, the stars and bars over her shoulders. She puts her heart. hand over her heart for the national anthem. Oh, okay. So everyone's like, this is how it's done, y'all. I didn't know she skated to Pink Panther S. Oh, yeah, yeah. And she's also kind of like bay with it. Yeah. And people are comparing her to, you know, some members of Fizz Nation.
No, people seem to like her. I'm not, I haven't watched any of her. I've seen the guy who's wearing like Balmain skinnies. Yeah, he can do a backflip. Figure skating is really, really, really, really impressive, but I cannot. bear to watch it. I couldn't care less. What about when you were smoking weed? If you're a little high and you watch it and you see somebody just totally nail their routine? I think Winter Olympics is one of the things that we pretend to like the most because I would say it's the thing where 50% of the sports being played are things that people don't know about and have never done themselves and have no understanding.
I made the joke about curling is so crazy. But it's also like even some of this cross-country skiing, all this shit. Obviously, it's incredible athletic pursuits. And figure skating is probably one of the most, maybe the most watched, I would say. I think it is. Winter Olympic sport. And it's very impressive, but the Winter Olympics, I couldn't care less. Especially there's a new season of Love is Blind and they're all from Ohio. Are you crazy? Yeah, I remember you guys talking about that. With Kazzy D. How could you possibly split your time?
How could you possibly go dual screen experience when you have something to concentrate on like that? We were talking about micro dramas earlier, and I was thinking that obviously you and I have no desire or interest to have micro dramas in our life, but I was thinking we should have some micro documentary, micro docs. Micro docs, like a 90 second. Doc. Yeah, I was watching a little video. I don't remember what, it was the journal or New York Times or Financial Times or whatever, but it was the author, or I think it was a New Yorker maybe, the author was telling, basically doing a little trailer for their written article.
And it was the first time I was actually compelled and interested. to actually read and learn more. That is smart. That is smart. People, a lot of people, you know, listen to podcasts or just consume media in general with the sole goal and interest in gaining information and like, you know, whatever, info maxing their existence. The entertainment part is sort of neither here nor there. So I think it's just like info bombing in these little 90 second short doses. is going to be i feel like it could be an interesting thing because i could hook i love learning but i don't want it to be more than a minute and a half yeah that's it you're pushing me to the end i simply can't be ours i'm about to break that that does that is smart actually especially to get people to i mean i think that that the first step was the you could listen to this article but that still takes 30 minutes which is probably too much for people um but just you know just cutting things in a way
That are tried and true ways of presenting things that work for documentaries. I always believe a good documentary doesn't matter what the subject is about. I completely agree with you. That's why I know so much about sports. I'll watch 30 for 30 by any... I don't give a fuck. I've got my guys. We were talking also about the Vanity Fair article and people were upset about the... The misunderstanding of late night talk shows versus just people doing a podcast. I saw a tweet, this guy, somebody named Tim Spears saying, it seems like a misunderstanding of late night talk shows.
They're not making, basically saying like all these people, you know, the chicken shops and the therapists of the world. They're not making topical jokes for a dedicated daily audience. They're making evergreen content attempting to infiltrate the algorithm. I feel like that was the best sort of definition of the difference between the two. I don't know. I think evergreen. Maybe not evergreen. Evergreen is quite generous, depending. But I see the point. I see what he's saying. They're trying to capture a clippable moment about their life or existence or a story. that can infiltrate the algorithm.
And they're not really saying any topical, dedicated things to an audience that tunes in. No, why would I want that when I could hear Jake Shane ask Kai Gerber or Hailey Bieber what fast food she likes? That's all I know. I'm good, bro. Oh, my God. I knew you were going to ask me this. Yeah, no problem. Hailey Bieber loves fast food sometimes. I was so shocked with her answer. Check it out. But like the way I knew you were going to ask me this. Yeah, right later on today, Chris Jeans and I are going to go hit the Laker game at the Crypto Arena.
A little Sunday Celtics Lakers show. I know you're going to be tossing back some $28 beers. No question there, fellas. Am I right? Yeah, the MX is going to get hit hard. It's going to hit heavy by 805 tall boys for 28. A pop. And also, my brother said I was thinking we should hit the Barry McGee show beforehand, which already means I'll get a nice bass going. This is the most Chris Jeans day I've ever heard in my life. I mean, where's the Barry McGee show? I saw one in Tokyo, actually.
I stumbled on one. No joke. Probably somewhere downtown because it's freeze week. Shout out to my freezers. Big freeze in the building. Big freeze in the building. Yeah, we'll see you at the edition on Thursday if Delta allows. Yeah, and I guess we'll post the link. to get on the RSVP list, which I don't think will guarantee admission. You want to make sure you come early. Come hot. And obviously, it goes without saying, no straight guys are allowed. Yeah, just us. All right. Well, thank you to the nickel and the pinch, my favorite hotels in Charleston, putting me up in a literal pinch.
That's nice. Well, the room, this is honestly crazy. It has a washer and dryer in it. And it's really a luxury that I didn't realize how bad I wanted. Because you don't even have one at your house. No. Well, it's in the building. In the building. And also shout out to all of our homosexual listeners that responded to me posting the Tom of Finland party flyer saying, fuck it. Okay, fine. You can say it. I heard a little more of you've finally gone too far. Is what I heard. There's a little bit of that.
They can't keep getting away with this, et cetera, et cetera. But I wanted to thank all of you for letting me say you guys are fags. It's huge for you. It's huge for you. All right. Thank you for listening. com is a website. We're back next week with more podcasts and we'll talk to you then. Later. Here's my white feather, hawk-tailed deer hunter. Likes to keep me cool in the hot breeze summer. Likes to push me on the screen, John Deere mower. I know you wish you had a man like him, it's such a bummer when I met him.
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